tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post8710590463948762936..comments2024-01-08T00:59:52.091-07:00Comments on muse-ings: So, where "are" the New Black & White photographers?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-6164828981454898292007-03-22T22:51:00.000-06:002007-03-22T22:51:00.000-06:00www.davidbram.comAnd I thought it was a very well ...www.davidbram.com<BR/><BR/>And I thought it was a very well done essay.david bramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03821741102639218085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-22575320790592380422007-03-19T14:08:00.000-06:002007-03-19T14:08:00.000-06:00Hmm I thought that might come up if I talked about...Hmm I thought that might come up if I talked about B+W photography being stuck within the bounds of modernism...<BR/><BR/>(and then I usually rely on Paul's posts to clarify my muddy thinking...)<BR/><BR/>For one thing, I think photography has often seemed quite happy for a whole bunch of "isms" to co-exist simultaneously through much of its history.<BR/><BR/>The other is that Modern photography probably held sway for one of the most important (or at least influential) periods of photography's short history.<BR/><BR/>As for Sugimoto, although his work is highly conceptual, I suppose you could actually describe an awful lot of it as a sort of neo-modernism? (possibly even Kahn too??)<BR/><BR/>I also think I see reactions against post-modernism (along with a sort of disregard for how important it actually might have been) in various other areas of art and creative endeavours. <BR/><BR/>Not sure that answers your question though...tim athertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756179153189240704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-38757805603309349262007-03-18T19:51:00.000-06:002007-03-18T19:51:00.000-06:00I have no idea. But suffice to say, we'll know it ...I have no idea. But suffice to say, we'll know it when we see it. Until this Return of B&W "movement" is more than just the nostalgia and wistful wishes of a select few, it makes no real sense looking for something that's not quite there yet...Stan B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17381743002180926900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-1044951867439520772007-03-18T11:13:00.000-06:002007-03-18T11:13:00.000-06:00I think that's at the heart of my post. I actually...I think that's at the heart of my post. I actually have a hard time accepting that.<BR/><BR/>Are we really just going to accept that there is essentially a fixed frame, a wall around black and white photography that limits what it can do and is capable of?<BR/><BR/>That there is nothing new in B&W since Evans (or Atget) and Kertesz and Sander - which is really all those pictures on the site you give are (excellent as they are) ?<BR/><BR/>Have Friedlander and Frank and Winogrand and Avedon pushed B&W as far as it can ever go? The rest is just trying to do that same stuff at least as well as them?<BR/><BR/>Essentially, B&W is essentially going to be stuck for ever in Modernism - even if it's the outer reaches of Modernism?<BR/><BR/>Is that really the case?tim athertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756179153189240704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-38422967642002118242007-03-18T11:03:00.000-06:002007-03-18T11:03:00.000-06:00Perhaps it is not so much who will come up with so...Perhaps it is not so much who will come up with something new in B&W as to who will continue to do what B&W has always done best (eg-http://www.oestervang.dk/portfolio.html).Stan B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17381743002180926900noreply@blogger.com