tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post7322907095990978995..comments2024-01-08T00:59:52.091-07:00Comments on muse-ings: Pictures of stuff that isn't there anymoreUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-62695819653871221162007-07-27T06:15:00.000-06:002007-07-27T06:15:00.000-06:00Welcome back, Tim, you were missed. The absorbenc...Welcome back, Tim, you were missed.<BR/><BR/> The absorbency of The Earth is a salient point in these pics. Life goes on. Human meanness, pain and stupidity come and go. They, too, are ephemera. The Earth will outlive us. <BR/><BR/> Conceptually, these images work as visual captions for things we know about mostly from text, mug shots, or pictures of the deceased.<BR/><BR/> This is a reversal from the usual order of things, wherein a photograph has many floating potential histories until captioned. Here, the text has had many potential visual histories until now.<BR/><BR/> The photos collapse that into one, and illustrate that this relationship between words and seeing is commutative.<BR/><BR/>--- LuisLuishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14942782882001678270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-16762162792557319362007-07-26T18:50:00.000-06:002007-07-26T18:50:00.000-06:00thanks seoras - if I were to write a more extended...thanks seoras - if I were to write a more extended post, I'd probably take it back to there.<BR/><BR/>I've always been impressed by Fenton's work and some of the civil war photographers. Of course technology generally forced them to make their (at times quite powerful) photographs of war without actually being able to show it.tim athertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756179153189240704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-50716049987072842682007-07-26T18:47:00.000-06:002007-07-26T18:47:00.000-06:00The thing is, an awful lot of good photographs dep...The thing is, an awful lot of good photographs depend on context - either personal/cultural or historical and in a way, us knowing the many words that have been written about what they depict. <BR/><BR/>If you take any of those "10 greatest photographs" type threads - an awful lot of them don't actually stand up that well if you had know idea what they were abouttim athertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756179153189240704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-20366406358407008142007-07-26T18:33:00.000-06:002007-07-26T18:33:00.000-06:00This idea has been in my consciousness lately. It ...This idea has been in my consciousness lately. It is quite an amazing concept, but to understand it, one must know more about the images that they are looking at. If they understand and know the context that photograph can succeed, if not, the photographs may not be strong enough to stand on their own.fartin on thunderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06972520832720351183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-34106930249377296242007-07-26T15:45:00.000-06:002007-07-26T15:45:00.000-06:00Hi Tim, One of the earliest, if not the first (Rog...Hi Tim,<BR/><BR/> One of the earliest, if not the first (Roger Fenton - Crimea ?) to do this type of image making was George N. Barnard (1819 - 1902), who photographed scenes from and the aftermath of Shermans campaign in the American Cival War.<BR/>One in particular is titled 'Scene of Gen. McPhersons death'. With only the skull and bones of a horse lying by some woodland. Photographed well after the event.<BR/><BR/><BR/>seorasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-16435698480188043922007-07-26T13:07:00.000-06:002007-07-26T13:07:00.000-06:00I saw the most amazing exhibit on this subject in ...I saw the most amazing exhibit on this subject in the eighties, taken with a WA pinhole camera of murder and violent crime sites. Unfortunately, don't remember name, but it succeeded because the pictures themselves (even w/o the accompanying info) were darkly eery, foreboding and dramatic compositions.Stan B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17381743002180926900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-71738245220933021022007-07-26T12:13:00.000-06:002007-07-26T12:13:00.000-06:00Thanks Adamthat's one I was defiantily thinking of...Thanks Adam<BR/><BR/>that's one I was defiantily thinking of<BR/><BR/>f:lux - I'm meaning to do a seperate post on Norfolk (and maybe Michiels too)tim athertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756179153189240704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-74301016608743952712007-07-26T11:55:00.000-06:002007-07-26T11:55:00.000-06:00In addition to Norfolk's work on concentration cam...In addition to Norfolk's work on concentration camps, Serbia, Afganistan etc., you can check out Bart Michels, who shows at Foley Gallery, and photo European battle sites.<BR/><BR/>http://www.foleygallery.com/artists/artist_ins.php3?artist=9artstarzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17355129291710377533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38446021.post-16205164828214986512007-07-26T11:28:00.000-06:002007-07-26T11:28:00.000-06:00Simon Norfolk might interest you too then?http://w...Simon Norfolk might interest you too then?<BR/><BR/>http://www.simonnorfolk.com/<BR/><BR/>In particular 'For most of it I have no words: Genocide, Landscape, Memory'.f:luxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13783572597289061149noreply@blogger.com